Average rating: 5.0 / 5 from 4 reviews (view reviews)
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Beautiful Villa, South West Facing, over Canal and Nature Reserve. Sleeps 8 with 4 Bedrooms, 2 Master Suites and 2 Twins. 3 Bathrooms Extended Lanai with Private Pool.
A villa in a truly outstanding setting.
Extended lanai with panoramic view of the canal and fasinating wildlife.
Electric Heated pool if required with private sun bathing area.
Beautifully furnished and maintained to a high standard.
Perfect for an idyllic relaxing vacation with every amenity close by.
Even the locals call it Paradise!!!!!!!!
Some added extras INCLUDED for your comfort:
** With Our Compliments **
Wireless Internet access
Free and unlimited telephone calls throughout the United States and Canada
Comcast Cable Television (200 channels including NBC sports channel for premiership football)
DVD and CD player
Selection of CDs and DVDs
4 Adult Bicycles
Child Barrier for Pool
Books, Puzzles and Games
All Linens and Towels
Cool Box x large & small
Large Table and Pool Chairs for alfresco dining,
|Owner's name||derek birchenough|
|Number of bedrooms||3|
|Number of bathrooms||3|
|Maximum number of guests||8|
|Breakdown of beds in the villa|
|King size beds||1|
|Queen size beds||1|
|Twin / single beds||4|
|Wi-fi / Internet available|
|Pool is south facing|
|Washer / dryer|
|Lanai / covered area|
|Single storey home|
|Beach cool boxes|
|Fishing rod available|
|It is your responsibility to check with the private owner as to the nature and availability of these amenities.|
Meet the owner
derek birchenoughMy wife and I love Florida, we have been going for the last 20 years. We bought our villa in 2005 after looking for about 2 years, we were looking for a nice quiet area close to the beach, where we could build a villa. We have achieved this and anybody who rents our villa will understand what we mean. We sit on our lanai and all we can hear his the birds, I still pinch myself sometimes to make sure I am not dreaming.
Having rented for many years we knew what we wanted and what potential rentors would be looking for and that is what we have got. South West facing, a nice view, plenty of space, nice furnishing, extended pool area, with a homely feel and a air of Tranquility which is why we gave our villa that name.
The feedback we have got from past rentors shows that they have found our villa a home from home and really enjoyed it. The beaches are second to none and we often see Dolphins swimming in the sea, we love the area more and more after each visit. The locals refer to this area has paradise and we can understand what they mean.
For privacy reasons, the marker on the map shows the Rotonda West community location and not actual villa location.
Pine Valley is located within the Rotonda on the South West coast of Florida in Charlotte County, often referred to as Floridas hidden secret, or the real Florida. It is near the beachside town of Englewood on the Gulf of Mexico. The International Airports of Tampa (1.5 hours) and Fort Myers (1 hour) provide easy access to this area.
Englewood has over 27 miles of white sandy beaches, many of which are almost deserted during the week. With Manasota Key to the North and Boca Grande to the South, our villa is perfectly located 15 mins drive to these fabulous beaches where pelicans fly overhead and dolphins swin in the sea. Englewood is one of the last parts of the Florida coastline to be discovered and is being developed on strict guidelines. Nearby Port Charlotte caters for all those craving retail therapy with a large Mall, whilst the Outlet Malls of Sarasota are 45 mins drive away.
There are plenty of local attractions and many activities available in the area. Golf courses abound in the area and nearest is five minutes from the villa
Rotonda consists of many beautiful homes, which have been built on large lots amidst natural lakes, canals and golf courses. Many Americans and Canadians have made this area their home and you will be staying in a quiet and peaceful residential community. Which is also home to an array of Florida wildlife including pigs, otters, raccoons, bobcats, turtles, alligators and a variety of birds. A nature reserve and conservation area has been maintained in the centre of the Rotonda, where you can get close to Real Florida.
With stunning beaches, fantastic wildlife, golf, and an array of attractions nearby, surrounded by numerous restaurants and excellent shopping opportunities, our villa is ideally situated to enjoy all the area has to offer
Golf is a must for many Americans and in an area where the weather is good and life is for enjoying, golf courses come as standard and you will be spoilt for choice. There are currently 6 courses within the Rotonda Development and upwards of 30 outside within a 15-20 mile radius. From May to October the courses are quiet and tee times can often be arranged the same day. Many courses include an electric golf cart as part of the fee and a few courses insist on their use.
Restaurants are everywhere and you can enjoy friendly and attentive service while enjoying a spectacular sunset or simply enjoying the warmth of Floridas weather. It is not expensive eating out here, but if you are prepared to pay a little more, there are some excellent restaurants in the area, particularly in Port Charlotte and Boca Grande.
In conclusion whilst everything is close at hand you can relax in quiet and peaceful surroundings in our villa.
We have a very helpful and efficient management company, who look after the maintenance of the property, which includes weekly pool service, lawn maintenance and cleaning after your stay.
In addition to office hours for general help and advice about the villa and the area, they are available 24 hrs a day in case of emergencies.
Wireless Broadband connetion installed, so bring your laptop, and stay connected!! .
This stunning villa is spacious and fully air-conditioned and sleeps up to 8 people. There are 4 bedrooms including 2 master suites (one king and one queen) and 2 twin bedrooms which share a further bathroom. Both master suites have their own TV / DVD. There are 2 separate lounge areas one of which features a 40 inch satellite TV, DVD and CD, all TVs in the villa are satellite and recieve over 100 channels. The other lounge provides a restful spot merely to relax, this room also serves as a dining room for those more formal dining occasions if required. A large fully equipped kitchen including microwave and dishwasher provides a more casual dining area. A separate utility room with washer and dryer completes the accommodation.
The villa is ideal for two family groups but equally suitable for smaller parties, which require that extra space, it is furnished throughout to a high standard in traditional Florida style.
The 2 master suites, kitchen and formal dining area give access to the South West facing spacious lanai and extended deck area where the 14ft by 26ft electrically heated swimming pool awaits, (pool heating recommended between November and April at an extra cost).
The pool area is fully equipped with sunbeds, a large table and 6 chairs for alfresco dining, it looks out down the meandering canal and the nature reserve, it should be noted there are no further properties to the right of the villa which adds to the privacy. Being close to the nature reserve ensures a variety of birds including, eagles, egrets and herons, regularly fly overhead.
We have sought to provide every conceivable extra including toys, books, games, pool toys, beach accessories, CDs and DVDs to help you enjoy your vacation. All towels including beach towels provided.
There is a Gas BBQ for those hot sunny days when you do not feel like cooking indoors.
4 Adult Bikes if you feel like some exercise !!
Facilities installed in the villa include:
Golf (<1 mile)
Park (1 mile)
Fishing (2 miles)
Restaurant (2 miles)
Grocery Store (3 miles)
Deep Sea Fishing (5 miles)
Jet Skiing (5 miles)
Kayaking (5 miles)
Miniature Golf (5 miles)
Ocean (5 miles)
Sailing (5 miles)
Scuba Diving (5 miles)
Shopping Area (5 miles)
Snorkeling (5 miles)
Surfing (5 miles)
Tennis (1 miles)
Water Skiing (5 miles)
Windsurfing (5 miles)
We do not "Oversell" the villa and have been pleased to receive the following feedback from previous guests, 75% of our bookings are repeat guests which accounts for few reviews recently from November until April.
Just had a wonderful 2 weeks here it is the best villa we have ever stayed in,(and we have stayed in lots) we have never been to this area before but it was excellent. Very peaceful, when we sat at the pool the only thing we could hear was the clock ticking. The outlook is amazing with the rivers and greenery and the wildlife. The residents are really friendly too. The home itself is lovely, very clean and comfortable and has everything you need and more. We had pool heat and the water was so warm no matter what time of day, just as I like it. The pool was big and the decking area was huge, there were only 2 of us but a family could all sit there and still have space. Lovely pool furniture too. Chairs, brollies and cool boxes are there for you to use at the beach, which we used a few times. There are also 4 bikes for you to use too. Derek was brilliant from the very beginning, he gave us so much information of the area and beyond, he contacted us while we were there to make sure we were happy with everything and also a couple of times after that. I can see why he treats this villa as a home and not just a rental, because a home it is. We really did not want to leave and if we want to come to this location again there will be no hesitation in booking with Derek and Wendy. If anyone wants peace and quiet look no further than here. Thank you for everything Derek
Linda, Barrow in Furness UK October 2018
We have just returned from our 2nd visit to this amazing villa and had yet again a fantastic stay.
Firstly, it was such a pleasure to deal with Derek and Wendy again, Derek has such wonderful knowledge of the area and kindly shares this with his guests. It is evident that the villa is a special place and as such is so carefully looked after with every amenity and comfort provided for their guests. Derek is very attentive and quick to reply to any emails or questions.
Secondly the villa itself - it is incredible, the villa is equipped with everything you need for your stay as well as providing extras for a visit to the beach - chairs, cool box etc. It is well decorated and beautifully clean and tidy, it has 4 lovely spacious bedrooms, 2 of which are master bedrooms with ensuite. The family area was large enough for all the family (7 of us) yet also felt cosy and homely.
The major wow factor that this villa also has is the stunning location, unoverlooked with views of a nature reserve and canal. We spent many hours by and in the pool watching all the wonderful wildlife. The peace and tranquility of the location was very welcome after the hustle and bustle of Orlando. It was so nice to unwind and relax and enjoy spending time together.
We love this villa so much that we have been lucky enough to be able to book again next year - I am thrilled to be going back!
Thank you Derek and Wendy.
Samantha from Essex UK August 2018
This was our third stay at the villa and as usual it doesn’t disappoint, inside or out, it simply has everything you could need including a Christmas tree for our December 17 stay. The communication with Derek was first rate as usual and there is more than enough information on restaurants and the surrounding area to form the basis of a fantastic holiday. It is without doubt the best located villa on the Rotonda if you are interested in wildlife and we had daily visits from Sandhill Cranes, Wood Storks, Alligators, Turtles and a varying cast of other wild and wonderful creatures. We can pay it no greater compliment than we would and will return in a heartbeat.
Date of stay: December 2017 Reviewer name: The Ryans, Gresford, North Wales
We have stayed in Florida villas many times but this was the best. It had everything that you could possibly want, in fact a home from home. Very comfortable excellent pool and the outlook was superb. Nothing overlooking the villa at all. The owner Derek was excellent, providing over and above information on facilities and the surrounding area. Our security deposit was returned immediately we returned home. Many thanks Derek for a great holiday
Date of stay: October 2017 Reviewer name: The Jones family , Somerset
Won't ever go anywhere else anymore!
So after a stay in July 2010 with our (then) 15-year old twins and just the 2 of us in April 2016, we were back again this September 2017 for 9 nights. Unfortunately that was the longest period still available to us, or we would have stayed longer (very happy to say we were able to get 17 nights in April 2018!). So after 9 nights in heaven, we had to move elsewhere. Well, that made us appreciate this villa, Derek and his Management Company all over again and even more! There just is no other place that is so well placed, so tranquil, so private, so surrounded by nature (but not overtaken by it like another place we stayed, which was very dark with neglected garden). What can we say? Everything and more provided, well maintained, all information about the villa and area on hand with Derek supplying the latest news and tips about restaurants, beaches, places to go. Home from home and the place to totally relax.... Maybe we shouldn't be sharing all this, as we wouldn't want the villa to get too popular with other guests ;-) Thanks Derek and Wendy, until next Spring!
Date of stay: September 2017 Reviewer name: Malou Volkers, The Netherlands
We have just come back from staying at this beautiful villa - "a little piece of heaven".
The Villa is immaculate and very well presented, all home comforts are provided and it is one of the best villas that I have had the pleasure in staying in.
The bedrooms are large and well furnished with plenty of storage space for clothes etc.
A lovely large kitchen with everything supplied that you would possibly need, the family area was lovely for us to sit and talk about our plans etc as well as relaxing and watching a bit of tv.
The villa also supplies beach equipment, towels etc which were fabulous to have and make use of on our numerous trips to the beach.
The jewel to this villa is its location - overlooking a nature reserve. It was so peaceful and quiet and we took great delight in being able to be in the pool while having such a wonderful outlook. The children loved watching the many different birds that came by the villa. The pool was lovely and warm and benefitted from getting the sun for the vast majority of the day.
Finally I would like to say what a pleasure the owners were, Derek was wonderful in supplying lots of tips regarding the beaches, restaurants, places to see, he clearly takes great pride in his villa and it is evident that he knows so much about the area.
It has been fantastic to stay in such a wonderful villa and I hope that we will be able to return one day.
Thank you Derek and Wendy
Samantha from Essex, United Kingdom August 2017
Beautiful Home in a Quiet Neighborhood! LOVE!
The house is very clean and we could have slept up to 8 in the house! We only had 5 of us, so we had plenty of room! The lanai and pool were where we spent our mornings and evenings, enjoying the quiet and visits with all of our siblings from different parts of the world. (We came from Texas, South Africa, and Indiana). Nice place to have a mini-reunion. Easy to find, too. Will hopefully stay there again sometime! Thanks, Derek!
Nancy, Texas April 2017
Title: Best Villa Rating: 5
We have just returned after 2 wonderful weeks.. After a hectic week in Orlando it was wonderful to spend 2 relaxing weeks at this beautiful villa. This was our second visit, the first being in 2010. We never even considered looking anywhere else. If anything the villa is even better equipped than it was back then. We doubt there is better equipped and maintained villa in Florida.
Dealing with Derek is just like having your best friend holding your hand. He is the font of wisdom about Florida, in particular about Rotonda West and its surrounding area.
His attention to detail is second to none and you just know that he really cares. Every detail is covered with nothing left to chance.
The location of the villa is brilliant. Very private overlooking the canal. Birds of all description visit along with the odd alligator and if your lucky you may see the bobcat.
Don't look any further book it now. You won't be disappointed.
Date of stay: 21/08/2016
Name: John & Rachael Paine and Family
Location: Wythenshawe, Manchester, UK
Review: UNFORTUNATELY (Hope that got your attention) there is nothing else we can add to the fabulous reviews already given here. Derek is a truly top bloke, who goes out of his way to ensure you are at ease from the moment you place your booking. If you have never gone DIY before then Derek really is the font of all knowledge to ensure you feel comfortable with every aspect of your holiday. Communication was absolutely first class. We were anxious to ensure that we got our first Christmas and New Year out of the UK off to a good start- and we did. The Villa is in a fantastic location on Rotonda, not overlooked and in a very quiet spot. Blue Heron and Egret pass by daily, and birds of prey wheel lazily overhead. We felt very much at home from the moment we arrived, and of course the kids loved the large pool. It's often the little things that make a big difference - the four beach chairs and insulated wheeled picnic box in the garage got lots of use at the local beaches which really are white sand heaven into shallow warm Gulf waters. Derek had even put up a Christmas tree and door garland in preparation for our arrival! For those wishing to travel further afield then St Pete's, Tampa, Sarasota, Boca Grande, Port Charlotte and Fort Myers are all easily reached by car. We have stayed many times in Florida Villa accommodation and this is by far the best. If you are looking for a truly relaxing beach holiday then you will not be disappointed. Everything from Waffle House to five star restaurant dining can be had within 30 minutes drive. Boca Grande is a gastronomic delight - be sure to visit Loose Caboose (lunchtime) and Pink Elephant (Casual but top class evening dining).
Finally, a very personal thanks to Derek and Wendy for allowing us to share their Florida dream, even if it was for only two weeks. The memories will be with us for life and we hope to return. Many thanks.
The Behan family from Sheffield December 2015
Massive thanks to you, Derek and Wendy, for allowing us to share your 'home from home' villa. This was our second visit to Englewood but first to this villa. Derek ensured excellent communication prior to and during the booking process and provided lots of excellent information relating to the area/places to visit/eat prior to our arrival. We definitely felt confident with our booking of a 'dibb villa' but also very quickly picked up on Derek's passion for his villa, his love of wildlife and the fabulous area we would be re visiting. The villa was extremely clean on our arrival (shame it didn't stay that way long once we moved in!) and was very well equipped for our stay. Kitchen was well equipped, especially for longer hires when maybe you would cook more than we did. Garage had lots of beach chairs etc for a day chilling. The villa layout lends itself to a fabulous family home and one that two families sharing would not feel over crowded. The pool area and outlook is most definitely the highlight of renting this villa and the main reason we selected this villa for hire. The pool deck is the biggest we have ever rented in Florida but with the outlook over the canals and no properties to the west of the villa as its a nature reserve, gives the villa a real peaceful feel and without a doubt is the best feature of the Villa. There was an abundance of wildlife to look at whilst relaxing on the very comfortable pool furniture. It was so relaxing after the busy days we had had in Orlando. The villa has a folder with local information in it which can assist you plan your holiday. The beaches are so clean with white sand and blue sky. Gasparilla Island was fabulous especially when swimming in the sea, 3 manatees swam by fairly close to shore which was unexpected but an absolute bonus especially for the kids to witness. Local restaurants were great and lots to choose from although a couple of restaurants that we wanted to go to had closed for refurb as late sept/early oct is their quieter time prior to the 'snow birds' arriving for winter in the sun, there was still lots of choice for us though. Derek was also in contact with us throughout our stay to ensure everything was okay, which was a lovely gesture, we had no need to contact the management company for anything but we were encouraged to if we had any issues.
We would not hesitate to re book Derek's villa if we are fortunate to return to Florida again and could guarantee if you enjoy peace and quiet and wildlife you will not be disappointed.
Thanks Derek and Wendy for allowing to share your gorgeous home in paradise.
Neil and Gill from Scotland stayed September / October 2015
Home from Home - but with better weather ! ? ? ? ? ?
Derek could not have been more helpful or pleasant to deal with. We know the area well and are regular Florida renters. This home is one of the best equipped properties we have stayed in and the owners do everything they can to ensure guests have a good holiday. We stayed as a couple but the property is very flexible and with two master suites the house is suitable for families, friends sharing or have the whole place to yourself! As the owners stay for extended periods there is more than the usual basic kitchen equipment and plenty of games, books etc to keep all ages occupied. The house is comfortably furnished and well maintained. Having beach chairs, sun umbrellas and cool boxes makes a day on the beach so much more comfortable and the beaches round Englewood are some of the best and least crowded in Florida. This was a last minute trip for us and we were more than happy with our choice of holiday rental. Derek and Wendy love their home and the area and it shows. Throw a steak on the huge BBQ and sip a glass of wine on the lanai and you will never want to go home.
Jo and David from Scotland
Idylic, Peaceful, stunning location
The Villa was as described, it was very clean and well maintained. It is in the perfect spot in a quiet residential community you are not over looked and the only sound you hear is from the local wildlife. The pool was SW so we got the glorious Floridian sunshine for the majority of the day. The Owner was incredibly helpful and forthcoming with any information we asked for prior to the trip. He also contacted us whilst we were there to see if everything was Ok and our security was refunded with days of returning home. The Villa is more of a home from home rather than a rental property with lots of little extras. If you like wildlife there is plenty to see as its situated on the edge of a nature reserve. There are many supermarkets located nearby. We had no need to contact the management company whilst we were there. I would highly recommend the Villa and would definitely go back there. Thank you for making our holiday perfect.
Helen and Terry, Burton on Trent
United Kingdom August 2015
A place to relax post theme park mania
This is beautifully maintained; it is probably the cleanest holiday home we've stayed in and we're quite particular! The villa is so spacious, our 3 children felt like they had their own wing. Derek the owner could not have been more helpful right down to providing us with an extra bike for our son. Something to note, you do need a car here as there are no ameneties within walking distance. However, the roads are excellent and everyone drives everywhere. We would really recommend driving the distance to Sanibel Island, an airboat tour in the Everglades, and a trip to Busch Gardens. All in all a fantastic second week to our holiday and this was very much down to staying in such a lovely villa.
Rosie, Newbury Berkshire United Kingdom May 2015
Beautiful villa in a beautiful location
Relaxation at it's best
This is not a rental house, it's home from home, it makes you kick off your shoes and exhale. This was our 24th rental house and never have I felt so relaxed. Larger than average pool, with all the amenities you will ever need. Rotonda is ideally placed to visit between Tampa & Naples so day trips are easy. Although the many beaches with free parking & free facilities within 15 minutes drive may tempt you not to stray far. For wildlife lovers manatees can be seen at Gasparilla Island and from Venice pier dolphins (especially at sunset) & Rays. Derek the owner makes the transaction as simple as possible. Will definitely be returning.
Debra from Wales October 2014
We will definitely go back
A very peaceful location. We found the house spacious clean and modern. A good sized southwest facing heated pool backing onto a canal and woodland. We especially enjoyed our evenings dining by the pool watching the sunset. We will return next year.
John W Cheltenham UK October 2014
This is a beautiful well kept villa, one of the nicest we've ever stayed in during our 25 years of visiting Florida. The nearby beaches are lovely and a nice change from the frantic pace of Orlando and the 'mouse'. If you like 'nature' you can't go wrong with this villa, being right on a nature reserve and close to several canals. The villa itself is large and comfortable and would easily accommodate two families with plenty of room for everyone. Derek, the owner is very easy to deal with and provides plenty of information about the area. I would highly recommend this villa to anyone.
Lynne , Crewe, UK September 2014
This was our third consecutive stay in Rotonda and the first time in this villa. Everything is to hand - there were only 3 of us staying so it felt (and is) enormous, two families can easily stay in this villa without getting on each other's nerves! It is on a huge plot surrounded by a canal on both sides, very tranquil and an abundance of wildlife. We had a blue heron called Ester that would appear outside the pool net every day along with two egrets that popped by too. Sitting on the lanai with a cold drink after packing away the entire contents of Publix (there are 3 Publix stores in this area) and listening to all the birds ..... It's relaxing stuff! If you can prise you way off the lanai there is a lot to do in the area and fabulous restaurants are close by - one of our favourites was an Italian restaurant called Nicola's.
We went to a Charlotte Stone Crabs game which is ten minutes from the villa and was a great night out. The shopping mall in Port Charlotte has a Macy's as well as a lot of other big shops. The outlet shopping mall in Ellenton is great for some bargains. The Mote Aquarium in Sarasota, the most spectacular sunsets from Stump Pass Beach, lemon Bay Tours do nature cruises where we watched pods of dolphins - even two babies! We went out for the day, fishing with a skipper ....I have never been so hot...but it was an experience.
I cannot compliment enough the villa, the management company whilst out there were brilliant too, Derek's attention to detail is second to none he wants you to have a great holiday and we certainly did. I cried when we left, we shall definitely return, we have been bitten by the Rotonda bug and there is no getting over it! Now just to get my lottery numbers to come up and I'll be on Gasparilla Island in a glitter sprayed golf buggy!
Karen and Keith Market Harborough, United Kingdom July 2014
Overall Impression 5 Stars
I cannot compliment enough the service provided by Derek and this superb villa. We have stayed in many different villas in Florida, both out on the superb gulf coast and in the Orlando area. This villa really does not want for anything. It's is furnished very well and has everything you could wish for for either an extended or short stay. The location is peaceful but also near enough to shops and numerous places to eat.
The communication with Derek at all stages of the booking process was first class, giving me great confidence my booking was in very safe hands at all times.
The experience of sitting on the beautiful stump pass beach and watching the sunset is not to be missed. We will definitely be returning again.
Ian, Uxbridge, United Kingdom July 2014
“Excellent / Highly Recommended Villa in Quiet Location”
The location of this villa was extremely peaceful and quiet. It was very tastefully decorated, very clean and well maintained. The owners Derek and Wendy were a pleasure to deal with, being extremely helpful with local information and maps. We would highly recommend this villa to anyone seeking a quiet location with great views along the two canals which wrap around the property, affording glimpses of the local wildlife. The villa itself is extremely well equipped including bicycles, beach chairs and umbrellas. We have enquired about a second stay and this is an extremely sought after villa. If you are thinking of booking it - do not hesitate!
Nicola and William, Kent United Kingdom March 2014
Rental rates (per week - for the home - NOT per person)
For a personal quote tailored to your holiday plans, please fill in the enquiry form below.
To give you an idea of possible prices, the owner has indicated the following:
Low season prices from $1050.00 / £650.00 per week.
Peak season prices from $1150.00 / £750.00 per week.
Rental rates notes
From £795 / $1150
Depending on party size and season.
Rates are inclusive of all Taxes and Cleaning. Pool heating if required is £70 / $95 per week. Special rates are available for last minute bookings and those of 3 weeks or more.
We can now accept payment by Credit Card via Paypal, however please note this would incur a 3.5% service charge
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